AIGS/FHC Member's - Family Trees

Alexander CARLYLE

Male 1570 - 1657  (87 years)


Personal Information    |    Notes    |    Sources    |    All

  • Name Alexander CARLYLE  [1
    Birth 1570  scotland, United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    Occupation uncertain 
    Death 18 Mar 1657  Dumfrieshire; Scotland, United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Person ID I697  FHC023 - Chapman Tree
    Last Modified 4 Mar 2023 

    Father Thomas CARLYLE,   b. 1540, Dumfrieshire; Scotland, United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1620, Dumfrieshire; Scotland, United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 80 years) 
    Mother Katherine (Lady DAME),   b. 27 Jan 1525, Perth Castle, Perthshire, Scotland, United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Sep 1580, Castle Glenorchy, Iorn, Argylshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 55 years) 
    Notes 
    • QUERY DATE OF BIRTH

      The Carlyle Family tree records 'Lady Katherine Dame' as being born in 1525, whilst her husband 'Thomas' was born in 1840 ... some 15 years after. Unlikely but possible. [1]
    Family ID F223  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Children 
     1. John CARLYLE,   b. 1600, Dumfrieshire; Scotland, United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1655, Burrens, Midlebbie; Dumfrieshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 55 years)
    Family ID F222  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 21 Feb 2023 

  • Notes 
    • ANCESTRAL LINK TO 'ROBERT THE BRUCE' ?

      Some sources indicate that the Carlyle's have an ancestral link to 'Robert the Bruce', although this appears somewhat tenous.

      The link is though Robert the Bruce's sister apparently :

      Per Wikipedia (March 2023) , a relative of the Carlyle's , Nicholas Carlisle apparently, traced his ancestry back to Margaret Bruce, sister of Robert the Bruce . [17]

      1) Robert the Bruce

      Robert I (11 July 1274 – 7 June 1329), popularly known as Robert the Bruce ( Scottish Gaelic : Raibeart an Bruis ), was King of Scots from 1306 to his death in 1329. [1]
      One of the most renowned warriors of his generation, Robert eventually led Scotland during the First War of Scottish Independence against England . He fought successfully during his reign to regain Scotland's place as an independent kingdom and is now revered in Scotland as a national hero .
      Robert was a fourth great-grandson of King David I , and his grandfather, Robert de Brus, 5th Lord of Annandale , was one of the claimants to the Scottish throne during the " Great Cause ". [1]
      As Earl of Carrick , Robert the Bruce supported his family's claim to the Scottish throne and took part in William Wallace 's revolt against Edward I of England . Appointed in 1298 as a Guardian of Scotland alongside his chief rival for the throne, John Comyn of Badenoch , and William Lamberton , Bishop of St Andrews , Robert resigned in 1300 because of his quarrels with Comyn and the apparently imminent restoration of John Balliol to the Scottish throne. After submitting to Edward I in 1302 and returning to "the king's peace", Robert inherited his family's claim to the Scottish throne upon his father's death.
      Bruce's involvement in John Comyn's murder in February 1306 led to his excommunication by Pope Clement V (although he received absolution from Robert Wishart , Bishop of Glasgow ). Bruce moved quickly to seize the throne, and was crowned king of Scots on 25 March 1306. Edward I's forces defeated Robert in the Battle of Methven , forcing him to flee into hiding, before re-emerging in 1307 to defeat an English army at Loudoun Hill and wage a highly successful guerrilla war against the English.
      Robert I defeated his other opponents, destroying their strongholds and devastating their lands, and in 1309 held his first parliament . A series of military victories between 1310 and 1314 won him control of much of Scotland, and at the Battle of Bannockburn in 1314, Robert defeated a much larger English army under Edward II of England , confirming the re-establishment of an independent Scottish kingdom. The battle marked a significant turning point, with Robert's armies now free to launch devastating raids throughout northern England , while he also expanded the war against England by sending armies to invade Ireland , and appealed to the Irish to rise against Edward II's rule.
      Despite Bannockburn and the capture of the final English stronghold at Berwick in 1318, Edward II refused to renounce his claim to the overlordship of Scotland. In 1320, the Scottish nobility submitted the Declaration of Arbroath to Pope John XXII , declaring Robert as their rightful monarch and asserting Scotland's status as an independent kingdom.
      In 1324, the Pope recognised Robert I as king of an independent Scotland, and in 1326, the Franco-Scottish alliance was renewed in the Treaty of Corbeil . In 1327, the English deposed Edward II in favour of his son, Edward III , and peace was concluded between Scotland and England with the Treaty of Edinburgh–Northampton in 1328, by which Edward III renounced all claims to sovereignty over Scotland.
      Robert I died in June 1329 and was succeeded by his son, David II . Robert's body is buried in Dunfermline Abbey , while his heart was interred in Melrose Abbey , and his internal organs embalmed and placed in St Serf's Church, Dumbarton .

      Birth
      The remains of Turnberry Castle , Robert the Bruce's likely birthplace Although Robert the Bruce's date of birth is known, his place of birth is less certain, although it is most likely to have been Turnberry Castle in Ayrshire , the head of his mother's earldom, despite claims that he may have been born in Lochmaben in Dumfriesshire, or Writtle in Essex. Robert de Brus, 1st Lord of Annandale , the first of the Bruce (de Brus) line, had settled in Scotland during the reign of King David I , 1124 and was granted the Lordship of Annandale in 1124. The future king was one of ten children, and the eldest son, of Robert de Brus, 6th Lord of Annandale , and Marjorie, Countess of Carrick . From his mother, he inherited the Earldom of Carrick , and through his father, the Lordship of Annandale and a royal lineage as a fourth great-grandson of David I that would give him a claim to the Scottish throne. In addition to the lordship of Annandale, the Bruces also held lands in Aberdeenshire and Dundee , and substantial estates in England (in Cumberland , County Durham , Essex , Middlesex , Northumberland and Yorkshire ) and in County Antrim in Ireland.

      Childhood
      Very little is known of his youth. He was probably brought up in a mixture of the Anglo-Norman culture of northern England and south-eastern Scotland, and the Gaelic culture of southwest Scotland and most of Scotland north of the River Forth . Annandale was thoroughly feudalised , and the form of Northern Middle English that would later develop into the Scots language was spoken throughout the region. Carrick was historically an integral part of Galloway , and though the earls of Carrick had achieved some feudalisation, the society of Carrick at the end of the thirteenth century remained emphatically Celtic and Gaelic speaking.

      Ancestry

      Descended from the Scoto-Norman and Gaelic nobilities , through his father he was a fourth-great-grandson of David I , as well as claiming Richard (Strongbow) de Clare, 2nd Earl of Pembroke, King of Leinster and Governor of Ireland , as well as William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke , and Henry I of England amongst his paternal ancestors. Robert's grandfather Robert de Brus, 5th Lord of Annandale , was one of the claimants to the Scottish throne during the ' Great Cause '.


      2) Nicholas Carlisle

      Sir Nicholas Carlisle , KH , FRS , MRIA , (1771 in York , England – 27 August 1847 in Margate , England) was an English antiquary and librarian. In 1806, he became a candidate for the office of Secretary to the Society of Antiquaries , which he obtained the following year. In 1812, he became an Assistant Librarian of the Royal Library ; he went on to accompany that collection to the British Museum , which he attended two days each week. He wrote several topographical dictionaries of England, Ireland, Wales and Scotland. He also wrote an historical account of Charitable Commissioners, and of Foreign Orders of Knighthood.

      Carlisle traced his descent from John Carlisle (d. 1670), of Witton-le-Wear . He was the son of Thomas Carlisle. His father married, first, Elizabeth Hutchinson; they had at least one child, a son, the surgeon, Anthony Carlisle . Thomas married secondly Susanna Skottowe, who was Nicholas' mother. Nicholas was born in York, where he was baptized in the St Mary Bishophill Junior, York on 8 February 1771. He received his education from the Rev. James Lawson at West Witton . Carlisle entered the naval service of the East India Company , attaining the post of purser . He also went into private business and made a large sum of money.
    • DUMFRIES & GALLOWAY

      Dumfries and Galloway is one of 32 unitary council areas of Scotland and is located in the western Southern Uplands . It covers the historic counties of Dumfriesshire , Kirkcudbrightshire , and Wigtownshire , the latter two of which are collectively known as Galloway . The administrative centre and largest settlement is the town of Dumfries . The second largest town is Stranraer , on the North Channel coast, some 57 miles (92 km) to the west of Dumfries.

      Dumfries and Galloway are located in the South West of Scotland and share a border with Cumbria in England. This part of lowland Scotland is very scenic, with a rugged coastline, and inland there are acres of green, open pastures and forest. The area is also steeped in history stretching back over 800 years. This region is known as the place where Robert the Bruce murdered the Red Comyn in 1306 and also as the place where Robert Burns stayed until he died.

      Dumfriesshire is in the south of Scotland, bounded on the north by the counties of Lanark, Peebles, and Selkirk, on the east by Roxburghshire and part of the English county of Cumberland, on the south by the Solway Firth, and on the west by the county of Ayr and the stewartry of Kirkcudbright . It is about fifty miles in length and thirty miles in breadth, compiising 1016 square miles or 650,240 acres. The county includes forty-two parishes, the royal burghs of Dumfries (the county town), Annan, Lochmaben, and Sanquhar, and six towns which are all burghs of barony .

      The county has had a colorful history After the departure of the Romans it was occupied by the Northumbrian Saxons and subsequently by numerous emigrants from Ireland who had settled first on the peninsula of Cantyre. During the reign of David I, many of the Norman barons obtained possessions here. Previous to the reign of James VI, the county was often the scene of predatory incursions of the English.

      An area of SW Scotland now forming part of Dumfries and Galloway , Galloway until 1974 comprised the former counties of Wigtownshire and Kirkcudbrightshire stretching northwards from the Solway Firth into the Galloway Hills and including the 'hammerhead' shaped Rhins of Galloway . Its much forested uplands are a source of hydro-electric power and its lowlands are noted for farming, in particular dairy produce and cattle. Its principal towns are Castle Douglas , Wigtown and Kirkcudbright , known respectively as the ' Food Town ', ' Book Town ' and ' Artists' Town ', together with Stranraer , Newton Stewart , New Galloway and Gatehouse of Fleet .
      Galloway formed an ancient kingdom with influences from Northumbrians, Gaelic-speaking Scots-Irish and Norse, with the Lordship of Galloway recorded from the 11th century. The Earldom of Galloway was created in 1623 for Alexander Stewart.

  • Sources 
    1. [S55] Unknown - on Family Search, Carlyle family tree, https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/K8KM-K2Z.